July 30, 2006
How fun was that?
By jrhippe
The line on Johnson, who collected his ninth loss of the season: 3.1 IP, 6 H, 9 R, 6 ER, 3 BB, 0 K, 1 HR. The outing raised his season ERA to a paultry 5.07. Former Met Jae Seo won his first game of the season.
The sad part? No errors from E-Rod, as his total remains pat.
I wonder how much fun it will be for you if the Mets make it to the World Series, just to be swept by a superior American league team?
I actually prefer it when the Yankees lose a game in a blowout. First, because I don't feel they had a shot to win, and secondly, because I know they will then go on a winning tear.
So, get your joy from a regular season loss, let's see how the post-season plays out. I wonder if you will have the guts to post when things aren't so rosey for your team, or if you will just fade away and wait for the next bandwagon to arrive.
Hey YankeeSonshine,
Welcome to YankeesSuck.com.
I did get a good laugh out of the "bandwagon" comment. And yes, we will see how the postseason plays out, regardless if the Yankers are there or not.
J.R. Hippe,
No, welcome to you, I have been here for a LOT LONGER than you have. And if you were trying to point out what you were doing is part of what drives this site (gee, I didn't know the name of this place), I will tell you this: The truth is that Mets fans know that their team is like the younger(maybe slightly retarded) brother to the Yankees. Or rather the JV to the varsity Yankees. It's why Mets fans can never talk about their team without bringing up the more prestigious Yankees. It's like they are trying to prove that the Mets are worthy to be compared to the big club from the Bronx.
Do Mets fans feel a sense of accomplishment now that the Mets can beat up on a Braves team that has finally hit he skids? It only took a decade or so for the Braves to faulter. I wonder how elated Mets fans would have been if they actually were able to beat (or at least compete) with the Braves when they were good. Hey, at least you can make yourself feel good when the Yankees lose a regular season game.
JR,
Never - EVER - beat a team by ten runs or more. Whenever a team does that, the team they defeated grow stronger and more hungry.
Yes, the Phillies lost their star slugger, which benefits the Mets, but said slugger went to the Yankees, putting them one step closer to yet another AL East title... Which is bad for the Mets.
And last but not least, for the love of god, have the common sense of respect to acknowledge the people who built this site. Especially since you - after all - are new.
Cheers,
Jack Jablin
Hey YankeeSonshine,
I'm not going to get into a Mets/Yankees argument with you, but I will say this:
I find your comment about the Mets being the "younger(maybe slightly retarded) brother to the Yankees" to be insensitive and unnecessary.
Anyways, it's already obvious that the Mets are playing in the shadows of the Yankees. That's fact -- just look at any New York newspaper. I guess that's what 24 more World Series wins will get you, but now that the Mets have turned their franchise around and are now serious contenders, it seems to me that Yankee fans, like yourself, are feeling it and the inferiority complex is kicking in. Remember this: We're used to second place, you're not. That's where this fun and pleasure comes from.
Hey Jack,
A couple things that I would like clarification on from your last comment.
1) Why is the Yankees winning the AL East bad news for the Mets? The only way the Bronx could stand in the way of Queens winning a championship is in the World Series and it doesn't matter whether they get to the playoffs via a division title or wild card.
2) "...have the common sense of respect to acknowledge the people who built this site."
I am baffled by this line. I didn't think it was out of line to post about a Yankees' 13-run loss to the Devil Rays. To be honest, I'm surprised how sensitive the readership around here is to some anti-Yankee comments. Again, in my defence, I point to the URL.
3) I'm confused that when I first made a blog post about the Mets you responded that this site will always be about "Yankee Suck" and now that I show an instence where the Yankees sucked -- 13-run loss to the Double A's -- you jump on me for it too. Hmm.
Thanks.
"...it seems to me that Yankee fans, like yourself, are feeling it and the inferiority complex is kicking in."
Now that's a laugher! What exactly would be the reason for said inferiority complex? The Yankees have a better record than the Mets, in a better division!
"We're used to second place, you're not."
Good for you, then you won't be dissapointed.
"That's where this fun and pleasure comes from."
How excactly? The Yankees are in first place, with a better record than the Mets.
You Mets fans are a riot. Your team finally excels in one of the weakest divisions in baseball and you feel the desire to crow. And if that weren't enough, you try to prop yourself up by knocking the Yankees for a regular season loss, yet the Yankees record is no worse than the Mets. I guess you want to brag now, because you know what heartache October has in store for you. Good luck with that, and the Yankees will in fact lose more regular season games for you to get off on.
Junior,
I was referring to your disrespectful commentary toward Yankee SONSHINE, I could care less about the content of this article as it acted as no more than a recap.
Also, if you are going to quote me, you may want to read the quote before you post it. Your quote involves me saying you should RESPECT THE PEOPLE WHO BUILT THIS SITE, I say nothing about this article or even stating an opinion about it. It was CLEARLY a comment in regards to your patrionization of Yankee Sonshine... So no, that's not a good "Defence".
Cheers,
Jack Jablin
YankeeSonshine,
Nice timing on the reply. How convenient was it to wait just minutes after the Mets lost and Yankees won last night to post that you're .002 PERCENTAGE POINTS ahead? Congrats.
It doesn't matter how the Mets and Yankees stack up anyways, because at the end of the day NYM still has a 13 game lead in the division. NYY - 0.
Go both Sox.
Jack,
I thought you were referring to the article, because we obviously have a difference of opinion on whether or not my response was respectful.
Thanks.
.R. Hippe,
I posted at the time of reading what you wrote, which was the same day you posted .
And I like your timing as well. Perhaps if you waited till your team actually wins something before crowing, you would come off less obnoxious.
Congratulations on your 13 game lead. You know of course that if the Mets were playing the teams in the AL East, they would be floundering at the bottom of the pack. It's too bad that the 13 game lead will do you no good come October.
You make it difficult for me to wish the Mets well.
"I posted at the time of reading what you wrote, which was the same day you posted ."
If you would have wrote that about 30 minutes earlier, it wouldn't have been a valid comment (Mets had a 63-41 record, Yankers: 61-41), so that's why your timing is fishy.
"It's too bad that the 13 game lead will do you no good come October."
At least it's basically assured that the Mets will be playing in October. The same cannot be said about the Bronx Babies.
"You make it difficult for me to wish the Mets well."
Thank you. A bandwagon is such a Yankee thing anyways.
(I still can't believe how shortfused the Yankee fans are here. Am I the first person to critisize the Yankees at YankeesSuck.com?)
"... so that's why your timing is fishy."
Even if I posted it a DAY earlier, it still would have shown what you wrote as farcical nonsense.
"At least it's basically assured that the Mets will be playing in October."
It SHOULD, but did you hear what once happened to the Red Sox with a 14 game lead?
"Thank you. A bandwagon is such a Yankee thing anyways."
Not the case here, pal. But I am a proud New Yorker who would like to see the Mets do well. It's pusillanimous Mets fans (liks you) who are nowhere to be found when the Mets are stinking up the field, but come out like cockroaches in droves when they are winning, that I can do without.
And it's not a short fuse, but rather dumbfounded incredulity, at the gall of a Mets fans unwarranted pompousness.
"New York huh? Who do you follow, the Mets or the Yankees?
I'm a real New Yorker.
Oh, whoever's winning, huh?" - Becker.
I came to this site hating the Yankees. It was my passion, it was what kept me into the sport of baseball. I could care less if two great pitchers were facing off on ESPN if two powerful teams from the AL East were competing on FSN or NESN.
People like Yankee Sonshine, Hugh Stacks, Mo, the people that made this site unique, they showed me that there is far more to the Yankees/Red Sox rivalry than just blind hatred. The rivalry isn't about one-upping or bettering, it's the exact same thing as the Lex Luthor / Superman rivalry.
The Red Sox (Lex Luthor) represent everything that a major league team wants to be, determined, talented, good to their fans.
The Yankees (Superman) represent everything that a modern baseball team can never be. They have the highest payroll, the greatest owner and a brilliant general manager (the Sox do have a great GM as well). They show us what we can never be.
The Yankees and the Red Sox are rivals because they bounce off of each other. The Red Sox don't thrive off of hating the Yankees, they thrive off of pushing themselves to get better so that they can reach that peak. That was their appeal, that was their charm. Once they accomplished that, that all became very clear to me.
So here we are, Lex Luthor has revealed himself to have just as many devious tricks and alterior motives as Clark Kent. They both have high payrolls, they both buy the players they need and they both thrive off of offense.
Because of this, I gave up on 'the rivalry' and I found myself loving the sport as a whole. I now find games where great pitchers will face off weeks in advance, even if I don't love their teams, because I respect their ability. I have come to respect ability and determination at the most common level over prestige and fame.
I have also come to respect fans of all kinds. Sure, every WINNING team has bandwagon fans, but they also have their loyal fans. The fans that will follow their team through decades of losing seasons (Pittsburgh), the fans who show up despite their team constantly spitting in their faces (Kansas City), and the fans who remember the days when their team couldn't win a ring to save their civilization (Yankees).
I have fans like Yankee Sonshine, Birds on the Bat and Check the Stats to thank for that realization.
Because of that, yes, I can vouch for Sonshine and say that he is very, very far from a Bandwagoner.
Cheers,
Jack Jablin
Hey Jack,
I meant to respond sooner, but I was out of town for the long weekend.
Thanks for bringing up those insiteful points. I appreciate you spelling out your stance on the Yankees, and their rivalries and hatred towards them.
You make an excellent argument.
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