August 18, 2006
Long Summer
By Karlsie
I had this notion I was going to be writing a lot this summer - and I have. Just not about baseball. Not because I haven't been going to games - I have. Mr. Pi and went to a bunch of games at Fenway, 2 Fishercats games, dwon to Pawtucket and other places as well. I've been loving the guests at the Fenway Writer's Series as well
I went to the Padres game against the Nats a week ago (where it felt like watching the Sox given San Diego seems to be where Boston players go to end their careers) and I got hissed at in the Philly airport at 6 in the morning because I was wearing my Padres cap.
But I haven't been writing about it. I've been busy writing about other things, including blogging about how I've started running recently.
Right now I'm going back to Fenway on 8/31 and 9/8. I'm going to more writer's series luncheons and I'm even scheduled to give blood on 9/11 at Fenway (something I've done for 3 years now).
I'm itching to write about baseball again - so I'm back.
Let the games begin.
I'm really looking forward to reading an article about the current Yanks/Sox series. Heheh.
I think the current series between the Yankees and Red Sox is an aberration. Neither team has played particularly well (hitting not withstanding). Starting pitching hasn't been steller on either side, and there has been some sloppy play in the field. The Yankees have been winning because their bullpen hasn't been quite as stinky as Boston's (although both are pretty much wore out). If the pitching doesn't improve, neither team will go far in the postseason. And if the Red Sox don't get it together, they won't even get there.
I hope the final two games are well pitched, and competitive .
Balance is restored in the universe! The yanks are on top and red sux fan are expierence the heartbreak and let down that is their glorious tradition. I guess thats a good tradition, I prefer winning championships...
But yall in boston ALWAYS HAVE NEXT YEAR
hahaha
Can somebody tell me why we let Johnny Damon go? This Coco Crisp is a punk. He's stinks at the plate... and what the heck was that last night in the 10th inning? Johnny would've caught that ball (and made it look easy).
On top of that (and I know this shouldn't matter), Coco's picture on the mlb.com internet web site is ridiculous. He's wearing his cap sideways -- like an insecure teeenager trying to get noticed. I thank God my wife, Oona (rest in peace) isn't around to witness this mess.
Come on Sox. Let's get it together.
-Monty
So, when so do the Patriots play? Anybody!
Big Mo [ huge Yankees fan ]
Hey Monty,
Coco's sideways cap is something called style. Clean shaven Damon
went just 2 for 10 but not in any particular order. would you trade
Kevin Youkilis for Mark Loretta? or would your ex-wife be bumbed?
grow up old man, it's just a 5 game slide.
-Nat
HAHAHAHA Lets go Yankees!!! Damon left because he wanted to be with winners. Yankees offered the same amount of money as the redsox but with an extra year added. Damon thought "Hmm... 3 years or 4 years? Losers or winners? Hairy or shaved? Redsox or Yankees?" He chose the Yankees and he made an excellent choice. Go Yankees!!! Let the redsox fans live in the past(2004) while the Yankees continue on with their winning ways, more rings to come!!
The Yankees offered an extra two million per year.
Thanks for playing.
Cheers,
Jack Jablin
Jack is right, the Yankees did offer more money to Damon. But I think the bigger issue is why the Yankees were put in the position to offer more money. The Red Sox thought Damon was a lock, and didn't "court" him. So it seems that Damon felt unloved or not appreciated. The thing is, Damon said he would have taken less to play with the Sox, but they didn't budge on their offer (players equate $ with respect). They never believed he would bolt for the Yankees, and neither did I.
In hindsight, I think he did the right thing, and I'll tell you why:
Remember when Bronson Arroyo took less money to sign with the Sox, because he wanted to stay with them? The Red Sox rewarded his loyalty (and hometown discount) by trading him away. I guess it's not only players who don't show loyalty.
Hey Nat,
Didn't you see any of the games? Damon owned the Sox this past series. And how about a little respect for Monty's wife, she's not his ex, she passed away. You should be ashamed of yourself.
The Sox bungled the Damon signing. Nothing more to say about it really. Great point about "loyalty" Sonshine. There is none in sports. I hate it when people even bring that stuff up. I watched the series with a couple of my Sawx friends and they booed everytime Damon came up. I brought up Arroyo too. Think the Sawx could use Arroyo right about now? I was happy when he left. I didnt want to have to see him anymore. He was playoff tested and pitched well in tough situations. Nice move.
Dont worry guys. The next 84 years should go by pretty quickly I'm sure.
Hey Natsuki...
Coco Crisp... style? Lemme ask you this -- is going 1 for 19 in the biggest series of the season also in 'style'.
Listen, sweetheart... I'm not looking to attack you. I feel bad for you. Your postings are a little inane, and you sound somewhat confused. I think you may need help. How old are you anyway?
-Monty
(Insert your name here or merely substitute 'reason why baseball fans annoy me),
Bronson Arroyo sacrificed for his team because he sees the big picture. He's a somewhat talented musician, he can pitch at the MLB level and he's not exactly knocking on wellfare's door.
The fact of the matter is, at the time of the trade the Red Sox traded a subpar pitcher (of which they had a surplus) for a powerful, electrifying prospect. Arroyo had a booming start to the 2006 season, but he's cooled off since (1 win in the past two months). So yeah, I'd take a 24 year old power slugger over a 29-year-old pitcher who never broke the 4.00 ERA mark as a Red Sock. What can I say, it must be so easy being you and having five months of retrospect to dissect a GM's move.
As far as Johnny Damon goes, he started to backstab and verbally attack the Red Sox the moment that the 2005 season ended. So yeah, he deserves to be booed, whether his signing was 'botched' or not; oh, and nice job forgetting to mention that the Red Sox didn't have a GM during this period in time.
This isn't time to rag on Coco Crisp, either, Red Sox fans. He's a good, young player who hasn't had time to adjust to Fenway (where he has never excelled). He's a better fielder than Johnny Damon, he's a match as far as speed is concerned and he's got a lot more upside than Damon ever will (he also doesn't have the natural advantage Damon has of being a lefty in Yankee Stadium).
Lastly, this is to Natsuki:
Your gimmick isn't cool, you're not funny and you have lifted whatever curtain previously masked the question of your incompetence - revealing yourself to be an obnoxious, insensitive fool. That's not an insult, because an insult implies some form of exaggeration, embellishment or demeaning falsehood. Sadly, in your case, the truth is far more distasteful than fiction.
...Sonshine, nice seeing you post again.
Cheers,
Jack Jablin
FINALLY A SPARK BACK IN YS! Ok so it's been awhile so I need to throw a lot out there for the little rookies who are here. 1. Johnny Damon plays for money, not love of the game. Since 2000 the Yankees have had a bloated payroll and nothing to show, but AL East titles which, by the way, means shit in the big picture of the playoffs. And another shot at your "winning ways" I see a 3-0 series lead was held together real nice wasn't it, real hard to win just one game wasn't it. 2. Trade Arroyo was a bad idea for 2 reasons, 1 he is a utility pitcher who we could really fuckin use over Julian Tavarez and Rudy Seanez and 2 he had the highest percentage of quality starts by a red sox pitcher last year. So if anyone shoulda gone it's Matt Clement. 3, Coco Crisp, listen guys he's young, it's his first year in Boston, anybody remember a guy named Edgar Renteria? Yeah, Coco's makin diving catches and has a stronger arm than Damon you can't really knock his defense, and on the note of hitting, not everyone can be Joe Mauer, and he has been moved around in the line up which constantly changes the way you are pitched to. Finally if the Sox don't get their shit together a get some guys who can fuckin finish a game, we are boned big time.
Dear Jack and Monty,
I understand that your idea of a forum for the free exchange of
ideas means bulling people who don't agree with you. I am
young and if a player is hot looking it helps me get into
baseball, sorry. I do wear a pink sox cap but prefer a player who
wants to be in Boston like Crisp and not a trader like Demon.
I see things differently than you fools do, so you must be right
and I'm wrong, LOL.
-Nat
Apparently we have a miscommunication despite the clearly aforementioned...
Never said you were wrong, never "bulled" (bullied?) you or even said I disagreed with you.. I DID call you obnoxious and insensitive. As I said previously, I'm not insulting you, I'm merely stating the unsavory truth; you don't like what I said? Perhaps you should act less obnoxious.
And if you believe my Mark Twain reference was calling you stupid, it wasn't. I said the veil was lifted revealing the answer to the QUESTION of your incompetence.. If you read that as me saying "you're stupid", then perhaps you're answering the mystery for all of us?
Cheers,
Jack Jablin
Jack:
Please just say that you meant to insult her. We all know you were. Try and be a man, I know it may be hard, admit it. Oh, and an insult does not imply a form of exaggeration.
Dont compare Coco to Damon, its another one of your lost causes. He may be pretty fast, but hes not the base stealer or table setter that Damon is. The Sawx are moving him around the line-up HOPING he comes around. When youre hitting .327 like Robinson Cano and theyre moving you in the lineup, its because they NEED you to help out in different spots. When youre hitting .270 with an OBP of .320, theyre just hoping you can help out in SOME way. If Coco is LUCKY, he'll have a career that SOMEWHAT approches what Damon has done. Bronson Arroyo was a guy who didnt flinch for you guys. Dont try and cover up for your team botching his signing by pointing out they didnt have a GM, they didnt want to sign him. If they really wanted him, they would have signed him before the season ended. And dont get too giddy about Willy Mo. Dont forget that you were going ga-ga over Coco and Xavier Nady last year, and we can see how thats turning out.
I don't see any facts supporting your statement, BML.
Coco Crisp is younger, faster and a better defensive player than Damon; it's a fact. It's also a fact that the only reason Damon looks faster than Crisp, is the fact that Terry Francona doesn't allow his team to steal bases (although, when he does it's only to make a 4-game comeback in the ALCS).
Xavier Nady? Why would you even bring him up? What's the point of it? He's a great young player who stepped up for the Mets more than anyone in a two week span. He's shown flashes of potential, and oh yeah, he's still young.
I also find it ironic that you hype Robinson Cano while taking down someone like Willy Mo Pena... It's just something I find funny.
As far as Natsuki goes, if I were trying to insult her, I probably wouldn't say "The following isn't an insult" preceding my commentary, would I? Also, if you read my quote, you would have seen a list of THREE THINGS that an insult implies: Exaggeration, embellishment or falsification for the purpose of embarassment. You can't insult someone by saying "your hair is Brown" because it's a fact.. But thank you for attempting to make a lucid point.
Cheers,
Jack Jablin
I was telling my buddy 'Fitz' (old drinking buddy from the North end) about this Internet site. He doesn't have a computer so I read some of the comments to him. He asked me to... (and these were his exact words) 'tell that pansie who's quoting Mark Twain that he better knock it off before he gets cold-cocked'. Apparently Fitzie only cares about baseball!
Listen, about baseball -- if Big Papi continues to feast on pitching... if Manny stay hot and healthy... if our pitching returns to the form we saw in April and May, we will be playing postseason baseball. Period.
Also, Natsuki -- you sure are a little firecracker. You remind me of my granddaughter Ariel. Spirited, rebellious, fiercely independent. The only difference (and don't take this the wrong way)... Ariel is intelligent. I admire your spunk. Your research needs work, though.
Keep posting, sweetie. You're bound to say something right sooner or later.
-Monty
Well Monty,
Leave it to a person named Fitzie to revive the phrase "cold cock" from the 1960's. Where's Mugsy and Rocko, eh?
M'yeahhhhh.. Welcome to the twenty-first century, mate.
Cheers
Well Monty,
Leave it to a person named Fitzie to revive the phrase "cold cock" from the 1960's. Where's Mugsy and Rocko, eh?
M'yeahhhhh.. Welcome to the twenty-first century, mate.
Cheers
Maybe Fitzie should actually give us some opinion on baseball and not on Jack sayin as that is what he cares about. And since your only point brought up about the Sox are vague and look like headlines and links pulled offa dirtdogs, it seems you don't have much of a valid point.
I haven't laughed so hard on this site in a long time... Mugsy and Rocko... lol!
CTS, where ya been? Nice to see you back.
I brought up NAdy because it was an example of how wrong you can be. Not a little, but a lot. The funniest thing about it is, you wont ever admit you MAY have been wrong about something. You should get married and make someone miserable. I mean, for you to even have Pena and Cano in the same sentence? That is funny. Coco is faster than Damon, noone is denying that. He just isnt the player that Damon is. And you would be the first ones to point that out if were still on the Sawx. You mean to tell me you would rather have Coco as your leadoff hitter than Damon? HA! No wonder you guys think the Sawx are still in it! Funny indeed.
Sure Jablin, no insult intended on Natsuki. Typical.
Why are you so upset with me, Jack? I'm not the one who referred to you as a pansie. It was my buddy Fitz' (short for Eugene Fitzpatrick). And for the record, my 2 other buddies are 'Boone' and 'Chet'. So you can go ahead and make fun of their names too. But with a name like Jablin, maybe you should think twice.
Now, how about baseball? Can't wait to see Beckett take this Weaver kid back to school. I predict an 8-2 Sox victory. Weaver won't even make it out of the 5th.
-Monty
BML,
Nady is hitting .324 with the Pirates, has 15 home runs with a 50 RBI / 47 Run split on the season and is only 27. If you don't like him, that's your call. He hasn't entered his prime years, and he's been dealt between three teams who apparently agree with me that he's got some skill.
Could I be wrong about Nady? Of course I could be, but about what..? I never said he was the next Manny Ramirez, I said he was a great young left-hander. Don't think I'm wrong there. I find it funny that your best shot at me is about thinking Nady is a good young player. That's nice...
I also have gone on record with friends as saying Cano is a future hall of famer. So your point is null there as well. I have tremendous expectations of him and I think he's a great players to watch; my point was - and you proved it right - that you constantly contradict yourself and thoughtlessly spout out whatever you think makes for a good point.
You rant that Willy Mo Pena is a horrible player, despite the fact that he has put up numbers as good as (in some cases, better than) Cano, in spite of not having had the playing time or the grooming that Cano has benefited from. Pena has more home runs, a higher slugging percentage, 13 less runs and only 9 less RBI's than Cano. Cano has a .328 average (while Pena has a .305 average.. Oh yeah, and Pena has only played in 65 games this year).
Here's an idea, I think it'll solve all of our problems. Alright?
Go outside, can you manage that? Alright, go find Mugsy, Patsy, Pugsy, Pitzy, Bogart, Robinson and Monty. You guys can go out, mosie - oh hell, let's be honest, you're more of an ambler, aren't you? - on to the local bookstore - make sure they sell DVD's. Now, go inside the bookstore and send Mugsy, Patsy, Pugsy, Pitzy, Grable, Cagne and whatever remaining cast member of "Charade" that Monty has brought along to the DVD section to find a big box marked "The Thin Man collection". Trust me, they'll be preoccupied for hours.
Now that you're in the bookstore, do what every other logical human does inside of a bookstore: go find the nearest soda machine. Walk up to the machine and take out a nice, crisp dollar, can you do that? Ok then! Now put the dollar in the machine and get yourself a Pepsi. Not a diet Pepsi, a Pepsi. I'm sure this is complicated, but let's see if you don't botch this up.
Now, take your delicious Pepsi, enjoy it. Take your delicious drink, now sip from it. Tasty, eh? Alright, finish up the Pepsi, throw the can in the recycling and now, lastly... Refresh your memory as to the mundane babble you've been writing over the past day and a half. Alright? You've got it all in mind? Alright, here comes the important part.
Now, ask me if a I give a shite.
Cheers,
Jack Jablin
I would rather have Damon as a lead off hitter if I didn't need to use him in any defense, so if I could have 2 DH's, but since that isn't the case I'd rather have Coco who is a better defensive player and a faster player than Damon. The offense which seems to be Johnny's selling point isn't worth the rest of the package. And if I seem to remember last year guys on the Yankees side were saying how much Damon sucked, how he can't throw, and blasted him sayin they'd never want him on their team, hmmm makes you think about the foundation of your loyalty doesn't it.
-Jack and all the morons, like Monty,
Translated, "dead wife" means "previous wife" in Japanese, so I guess ex-wife is the wrong term. I started studying english since the fall of 2003. So Einstein, in three years from now I'd like to hear how well received you are on a Japanese blog. And congratulations I didn't know you were quoting Twain, very awesome.
-Nat
P.S. Monty, Thanks for the support but you sound gross.
The people who wrote they wouldnt want Damon on their team were dumb. UNLESS, they already had a great leadoff hitter. The closest the Sawx have now is Youklis, ala Boggs.
Are you done Jabby? I didnt compare Pena to Cano. Go ahead, check. Ill wait. Done? Riiiight. I wrote that when you move a guy around in the lineup (Coco) and hes not producing offensively, its because the team is HOPING that theyll find a place for him to produce. UNLIKE Cano. Who is moved around in the lineup because he is so versatile hitting-wise. I brought Pena into the convo because of our Bronson exchange. There. Sorry. I dont drink soda. Too much sugar. I might make a HUUUGE mistake like you just did if I drank soda. Eat some fudge with your pepsi, im sure you do already.
Nady is 27. Is that really young in the big leagues for a guy thats been traded THREE times (And we ALL KNOW how much teams love trading "GREAT" young players) and has never been able to produce over the long haul? If he WAS able to produce the way you go on and on about, why would he be traded? Wow! Did he REALLY carry the Mets for 2 whole weeks? When was this? When David Wright (MVP?), Beltran and Reyes were out skiing? I didnt realize that. Thanks for enlightening the group with your clever repartee. Especially the part (giggle) where you even try and compare Pena to Cano. C'mon. He wasnt getting consistent time because he strikes out WAAAY too much and in the early part of the season couldnt catch the ball. I would THINK that would have SOMETHING to do with it. And before you go there, yes, I know he only has one error, but we both know that doesnt begin to tell the whole story when it comes to outfielders. And yes, HE is young at 24. So is Cano, at 22. NOT Nady, at 27 though. Hes not a burgeoning young prospect. He'll finally get his chance though in Pittsburgh. They suck. They can afford to leave him in the lineup for good. Maybe Pena can join him there.
If I might chime in on Damon:
IMO, Damon is a great Fielder with a weak arm. I know this, and am used to it, because I have watched Bernie Williams for years. Damon is a fantastic leadoff hitter who also affords the Yankees to use Jeter in the number two slot (where he is awesome).
To be honest, I was worried about Damon joining the Yankees, what with all the "we are idiots", and the slovenly appearance. But he has fit in nicely. I am even more surprised at how well Abreu has fit in. I guess you can't always believe what you hear (or see).
As far as Coco goes, he does have a larger upside than Damon, if realized. It remains to be seen if he can handle all that is Boston baseball.
BML,
Once again you FAIL to make a point. Your best commentary is that I "already eat fudge with Pepsi". Sorry to tell you, I don't do either.
You can rant and rave all you want about Nady, it means nothing to me. Since the peak years in MLB start at 29, I suppose 27 IS young, but you wouldn't know that, nor would I expect you to.
My OPINION is that he's a good young player, no matter what you say, I'm not wrong on an opinion.
Check to see if you compared Cano to Pena? Ok, it won't take long...
"I mean, for you to even have Pena and Cano in the same sentence? That is funny" - Ok, done.
That sentence implies that their talent scales are so out of whack, that Pena (whom you were ragging on) doesn't even deserve to be in the same sentence as Cano... Talk about backtracking!
Now, how about you make an exception, go have a coke and a smile. Come back in a few hours and try again: Ask me if I give a shite about your two cents.
Cheers,
Jack Jablin
At least you quoted me correctly; I wrote that I couldnt believe that YOU put them in the same sentence together. YOU. Here:
"You rant that Willy Mo Pena is a horrible player, despite the fact that he has put up numbers as good as (in some cases, better than) Cano, in spite of not having had the playing time or the grooming that Cano has benefited from. Pena has more home runs, a higher slugging percentage, 13 less runs and only 9 less RBI's than Cano. Cano has a .328 average (while Pena has a .305 average.. Oh yeah, and Pena has only played in 65 games this year)."
What are you. stuck on stupid? YOU tried to compare their stats. Very funny actually. And then you say its me? Nice investigative reporting there. Could you explain why this "Great" young player keeps getting traded? Remember? "He's a great young player who stepped up for the Mets more than anyone in a two week span." Any ideas?
Again, you were wrong. JUST like you saying that the only reason why Damon seems faster than Crisp is because Fran-coma doesnt let him steal bases. Has Fran-coma followed him around his whole career? Coco's career high in SB's is only 20. He has NEVER been the base stealer/runner that Damon is. Just like I said earlier.
Ok. Go ahead. Try and save face. Maybe you'll have another witty soda reference. I can't wait. Oh yeah, "Cheers".
It's like I always say: "When you're dumb, surround yourself with people who are smarter than you. When you're smart, surround yourself with smart people who disagree with you."
At least you're able to do the former.
Xavier Nady is great - again, it's my OPINION. Seeing as how an OPINION can't be wrong, it appears as if you aren't just "stuck on stupid", your shift has gone way past stupid and is stuck on the mental equivilence of "reverse".
Coco Crisp IS faster than Johnny Damon, it's a fact. Johnny Damon has never been a speed-demon (his total this year is 22) and the last time that he showed the most remote chance of being a Carl Crawford burner was in 2000... Also, I think you just hate Coco Crisp because he single handedly beat the Yankees with a gold glove, play of the year type catch in Left-Center, earlier in the season.
Last I checked, saying "Go drink a Pepsi" wasn't a reference, it was a statement. Last I checked, I still don't give a shite.
Fact of the matter is, you just keep blathering all day and all night. In fact, you can do just that, I'm done watching you reiterate the same single point: "Xavier Nady sucks". It bores me.
When you can come up with something original, or that's not a lie (like saying you never compared Cano to Crisp, which is exactly what you did by attempting to dissect MY comparison - which I never denied making - and make your own) you can come talk to the people who know baseball outside of one city.. But yeah, rock on, best wishes, all that rot.
Cheers,
Jack Jablin
Dear Jack,
Are you ok? Too much sugar in your system? Could you please give the quote where I said that Will Mo was a "horrible" player? I gave you your quote. Here is mine,
"Dont compare Coco to Damon, its another one of your lost causes. He may be pretty fast, but hes not the base stealer or table setter that Damon is."
Now, unless Coco's last name is Pena, you are WRONG yet again. I said for YOU not to put them in the same sentence. Which, you shouldnt. Pena and Cano dont belong in the same sentence. MAAAYBE Pena and Nady. Two guys that have talent, but for some reason or another (Cant find a defensive position for them or strike out waaaay too much) have not been able to stay in the lineup for a whole season. As opposed to Cano, who has been a regular from the time he came up due to his OBVIOUS talents. Noone would trade Cano BECAUSE he is so good.
If you think that Nady is a "great" player, then guess what? You ARE wrong. A "GREAT", young player would be Cano (22). A GREAT, young player would be Pujols (26, and has 5 GREAT seasons under his belt. And no, I am not comparing Cano and Pujols)). Papelbon is a GREAT, young player (25). Papelbon at least has one GREAT season to show for it. Get it? Plus, the funniest part of this is; you think that Nady is a GREAT, young player, but you think that Coco is "only" a good young player? Huh? Coco has been a regular for years because a team CANT afford to keep them out of the lineup because they are so good. Get it?
Is that it? Is that your best attempt? You try to make it sound like I said something that YOU said in error? Please, say it aint so.
BTW, I wasn't calling you stupid. I was merely ASKING if you were STUCK on stupid. Thats all. (Hi Natsuki) Unfortunately, it seems that reading comprehension isnt your strong suit. Also, if your opinion cant be wrong, then why did you write,
"Could I be wrong about Nady? Of course I could be..."
Stop with the soda. It looks like the onset of Diabetes.
Sincerely,
The guy that gives a shite (Who talks like that?)
Hey Boston Massacre Lover,
Learning is fun. You are a fat New Yorker, YOU have diabetes and I'd guess a nice pair of big fat breasts. Tell your parents you will move out of their house as soon as you meet a girl, lets say......never. I don't care for Jack's superiority complex but I bet he doesn't have all the star wars films collectors series on dvd.
-Nat
Now that's the Beckett we need. 62 pitches in 6 innings. Big Papi was big as usual and Papelbon is lights out once again. All we need now is Manny back in the lineup so we can start scoring some runs.
-Monty
Cool. You are a Bahston fan. Im just not big on guys trying to bully women, and then not even admitting it. Unfortunately, he doesnt admit to ever being wrong anyway. Which he clearly was, then even tried to put it on me.
Sorry, I dont own the Star Wars trilogy. But I have seen all the movies. I didnt notice and dont care if you put your foot in your mouth. Jack is just too bloated for his own good, as evidenced by his posts. Wear your pink hat if you want to, its not gonna help your team anyway.
"Could you please give the quote where I said that Will Mo was a "horrible" player?" -- I would do that, if I even remotely mentioned Pena in my last post... Which I didn't - kinda backfires the majority of your commentary, huh?
"Noone would trade Cano BECAUSE he is so good." -- Oh, so a player is only good if he's never traded? Sounds like you're a moron.
"If you think that Nady is a "great" player, then guess what? You ARE wrong. A "GREAT", young player would be Cano (22)." -- An opinion can't be wrong, a fact can be. Let's see some examples: "The new Assault on Precinct 13 in not as good as the original" - opinion, can't be wrong. "BML is incompetent, and he can't think up a new, witty insult so he opts to ripoff others" - fact.
"You try to make it sound like I said something that YOU said in error?" -- Never said that, again you're a liar.
I've said this time and time again. You're not clever, you don't think up original commentary - nice job making fat jokes, they would hurt more if they were true - you don't make new or factually interesting observations... The fact is, you're not that smart.
I've given you the chance to come up with something original or that wasn't completely false, you failed. Because of this, I hate to say it.
Good Day Sir.
Cheers,
Jack Jablin
Natsuki,
For the record, I didn't know - or care - whether you were male, fale, American or Japanese. The fact is, I made my commentary based on the actions you had shown at the point I felt like addressing them. If there was a failure in translation, that works and I take back the "insensitive" comment; I was wrong there. I thought you were making a crack about Monty's deceased. I do stand by the majority of the rest of my commentary, but again, it's not a shot at you as much as how you come off through your actions.
Fact of the matter is, had I known you were female I would more than likely have said nothing and merely ignored you. The fact is, I don't pick fights with women - obnoxious or not. I speak five languages and I'm entirely aware of how easy it is to botch up a simple grammattical formality.
Good luck learning English, the most horrifying one on record - just try to pronounce "Paradigm" without hearing it first.
Cheers,
Jack Jablin
Hey Guys...
I don't mean to add any fuel to the fire, but Jack said that Robinson Cano is 22. I just looked it up on my computer. He will be 24 on October 22nd.
Sorry if this sounds like I'm disagreeing with you Jack. I don't want to upset you, or anyone else on this site for that matter. It's nice to have a forum to discuss the Red Sox. Sometimes I get a little worked up. Plus my new heart medication gets me a little agitated. (I won't bore you with complaints about the new Medicare Prescription Plan). But it's awful.
Anyways, let's take it to Seattle. Sweep?
-Monty
Monty,
You're right. When he debuted he was 22, that was the last time I heard his age and I forgot that it's been a year and a half since he debuted. That one's on me, I was wrong. Thank you for making that mundane adjustment.
Nice call on Jered Weaver getting shelled 8-2, by the way.
Cheers,
Jack Jablin
Jack,
You said:
"had I known you were female I would more than likely have said nothing and merely ignored you."
I agree with you, had I know you were a chick, I wouldn't have bothered either.
-Nat :)
Monty. You are right. Cano turns 24 this coming October. My error. As for Jack, please read below:
"I also find it ironic that you hype Robinson Cano while taking down someone like Willy Mo Pena... It's just something I find funny."
"You rant that Willy Mo Pena is a horrible player, despite the fact that he has put up numbers as good as (in some cases, better than) Cano, in spite of not having had the playing time or the grooming that Cano has benefited from. Pena has more home runs, a higher slugging percentage, 13 less runs and only 9 less RBI's than Cano. Cano has a .328 average (while Pena has a .305 average.. Oh yeah, and Pena has only played in 65 games this year)."
For a guy that never brought up Pena. You sure did write a lot about him. And I still havent seen where I bashed Pena. What language would you like me to write it in? I promise, I'll try my best to appeal to your CLEARLY superior intellect.
I never wrote that great, young players NEVER get traded. Just not as much as Nady has. Here is his BEST, COMPLETE season (KEY word there Jack):
326 AB's, 13 HR's, 43 RBI's, .267 Avg. Does that sound GREAT?!?! To ANYONE?!?!?!?! Your opinion IS wrong about that. He is hitting .278 this season. Your mommy may have told you your opinion can never be wrong so you wouldnt feel bad about yourself. But this is the real world. If a GM of a team ever conluded that Nady was a GREAT player and made the appropriate blockbuster trade for the guy, he'd be fired.
Good day sir? Who talks like that?
So let me get this straight, Jack. When you're wrong, you can't just be wrong -- you have to point out that it's mundane, and then take a pot shot about a wrong prediction I made? My God, you're like a little girl. My grandson (3 years old) acts manlier than you, Jack.
By the way, you spelled 'Jared' wrong you big sissy.
-Monty
P.S. Now go think of something clever to write back so you can preserve your big inflated ego.
BML,
I think the term "good day sir" is a quote from Pablo Neruda.
Back Bablin is the dumbest person I've heard on this site and the mask of grammatical knowledge he's wearing is as concealing as my tiny pink thong.
He's the jerk that says "Your gimmick isn't cool, you're not funny and you have lifted whatever curtain previously masked the question of your incompetence - revealing yourself to be an obnoxious, insensitive fool."
Anybody have a mirror?
-Monty, I think you dated my great, great, great, great, grandmother, has your birth-certificate expired yet?
-Nat
BTW-GO SOX!
Jack,
I must have missed something here. Did you piss in someone's wheaties or what? Is this the gang up on Jack blog? I have been around here for a LONG time, and I find Jack to be one of the fairest people to write here. As a matter of fact, Jack has been paid for his writng, so he must be pretty good at it. While I don't always agree with the guy, I value his opinion, and have found him to be of good character. I think all you guys should start over, and not take it to a personal level.
Nat,
That's a good one, very, very funny set up ("had I known you were a chick") I give you kudos on that one.
Monty,
I said I was wrong, how does that make me "not wrong"?
By the way, I spelled "Jared" wrong, because his name is Jered... Yeah, I know this must be awkward for you.
BML,
You disagree with me about Xavier Nady, and that's fine. That's your opinion, I respect that. I have never tried to attack your opinions, I have merely pointed out some things in your logic that I disagree with.
I haven't taken any "pot shots" or been insulting to anyone. I disagreed with people, pointed out that your inane insults do not bother me, that I do not care about what you have to say if it merely pertains to disagreeing with my opinion from the logic of "you're just plain wrong". If any of you feel like you can give a logical counter-point to my opinion, I'd gladly listen to it.
I defended the honor of Monty's deceased, if he feels the need to somehow attack me for that, I feel his priorities are a little bit out of whack. A good deed never goes unpunished, I suppose.
The fact of the matter is, I know baseball. I know baseball fans. There are good ones, there are bad ones. The best ones are able to give their opinion and know that they don't HAVE to prove themselves right. This is why I have said it, and I'll say it again:
I believe I said "Good Day".
Cheers,
Jack Jablin
So I really don't get this. I can understand BML fightin cause this is what happens, I can even understand to a much much lesser degree Natsuki, but I think that should just die now cause it's going in circles, however I don't get you Monty, you just decided to pick a fight and when you had nothing to back up your stance you start challenging the character of Jack than researching your point so that you can at the very least have a better arguement. And really you talk about being a fan and from what I have gathered you are around the age of 65, and claim to know your baseball, but you don't even know the correct spelling of the best SP for the past month's first name, and it's not that it was a hard one to remember, but just the ignorance and assumption of what it was. So in that it seems that most of your "facts" come from your conclusions without any real proof. So please do some research, come back when you can tell me who the Red Sox retired number corrispond to and then you can come back to the conversation.
Jack...
Please accept my humblest apologies for my recent rants. I had no business writing Thursday or today. Please let me explain...
My doctor put me on a new medication this past Wednesday. The side effects have been pretty nasty. Tonight, for the first time in 2 days, I feel 'normal'. I just re-read my comments (comments I don't even remember writing), and all I can say, Jack is 'I'm very sorry'. I am thoroughly embarassed by my groundless attacks on you. I sound like an out-of-touch old man, which arguable I was at the time.
The truth is I find you to be a fair individual and a talented writer. No surprise you get paid for your work. You remind me of a young WIlliam Safire.
From here on in, I will keep my thoughts to myself on days when I'm feeling a 'off'.
Apologetically,
-Monty
P.S. For the record, I am 76.
Monty,
Like I said, I've got nothing against anybody who has posted here. I take your comments at face value and you don't need my forgiveness. I understand that you may have been out of character, it happens.
Please, don't keep your comments to yourself even when you are feeling "off"; remember, it is only when we are at our most distant that we truly can see our true fury. Equally, it is only when surrounded by our critics that we can find our faults.
Either way, welcome back.
Cheers,
Jack Jablin
Sonshine, if you would like, please look at all the posts. If, after reading them, you still think that Jack was NOT insulting in any way shape or form, please point it out. Maybe, just maybe, he brought it on himself. Look over the posts.
Jacky-boy,
I gotta say, you are a character. Please stay the same. You think that you haven't been insulting to anyone? Jeez. I would prefer it that you just stood up like a man and just said, "Yeah. I said it. You deserved it". Or something to that end. But of course, much more wittier. Something that only a man with your superior intellect could write. But at least admit it.
I disagree with you on a number of things: I disagree with you about Nady, comparing Coco to Damon, comparing Cano and Pena (Please don't make me show you your quotes again...sigh). I posted stats and quoted you to illustrate each one of these points. What else do you need? Show me an actual, thought-out argument. You haven't. What's the problem? Is it because you really don't have a leg to stand on and need to (for all intents and purposes) write gibberish?
"Its my opinion, so I CANT be wrong" - So there! Myah (Sticking out your tongue) Then you have the gall to accuse ME of gibberish? Or maybe you would write rigmarole to keep up with your "character". Either way Jack, whenever YOU are ready to actually put together a coherent, FACTUAL argument, I would love to hear/read it.
Here are a couple of more contradictions from your latest post:
"I have never tried to attack your opinions; I have merely pointed out some things in your logic that I disagree with."
Yet:
"(Insert your name here or merely substitute 'reason why baseball fans annoy me)"
Is this Jackie just being friendly? Is this how he makes friends Sonshine? I know that I had attacked (A little dramatic, no?) him at this point. Only using facts. Coco's career high in SB's is only 20, not as many as Damons. Damon gets on base more. I showed NAdy's stats. He attempts to not acknowledge that you jsut threw FACTS out there (BTW Jack, A fact is the truth. You dont disprove facts) and instead says that you havent. I dont get it.
He doesnt need you to stand up for him. Let him stand on his own.
BML,
I wasn't trying to stand up for Jack, per se. I was trying to say that I thought you two may have gotten off on the wrong foot. Funny thing is, Jack has actually done the same for me. There aren't many Yankee fans who come here, so I didn't want to alienate you. The Yankee fans who make us all look bad I can do without. You seem to know your stuff about baseball, and I feel that by just fighting with the guy, you miss out on some real baseball talk you could have. I understand fighting with a Sox fan can be fun (Jack isn't really a Sox fan any more), but there are a ton of idiot Sox fans (and Mets fans lately) here to do that with. When no one else on here could find the time to write, Jack was the only guy keeping this place going (and Karlsie), and he doesn't even own it. Maybe Jack came off a little harsh with you, but I think you will find you can talk some inteligent baseball (and trash) with him.
Agreed Sonshine. But, in addition to what may have been "out of character" for Jack, he was also not actually making a point. You did see where I backed up my arguments, correct? He wont even try and fight a fact with a fact. Instead of throwing out a real, lucid argument. He goes on a tangent about drinking soda? Denies ever making the statements he ahs made, even though it is there in print a mere inches above where he is posting. Is he related to Karl Rove? I dont get it.
As for the talking trash aspect of the whole thing; I dont understand the sensitivity to on a website called Yankees SUCK. Again, I dont get it. Or, to channel Jackie, I find it funny. I just do.
Well, I guess that is your answer Jack. You can't actually make a clear, thought-out argument. To borrow your words: Thanks for playing.
Cheerio
BML,
I think you need a new hobby...
Immitation is the sincerest form of flattery, though.
Cheers,
Jack Jablin
Thats my boy. No facts or real argument made, why change it up now? Way to go champ.
BML just curious, where was he suppose to make an arguement? At the point that you didn't make or the invisible one that only you can see? You need a point for there to be a counterpoint jackass. Don't pot shot, get retaliated against, and then say there is no arugement. Well I got one for ya and in the famous words of Glen Quagmire "Why are you still here?!"
CTS,
So, I guess you went to the same reading comprehension class as JJ? So, your name is Check the Stats and yet, the STATS that I put up there were nothing? JJ says that we only disagreed on Nady and that I lied about...I already wrote this man. Just read it. Whats the problem? I wrote what I disagreed with him on, quoted him, posted stats that reflected each point. What gives? I guess because your on the same site that you stand up for each other? THats great and admirable. Sonshine tried to help him out too. But please dont say I didnt make a point.
He makes statements that Coco is a faster and that Francoma holds him back from stealing. But his career high (before he came to the Sawx)in SB's was only 20. I really dont get you guys.
To quote the great, Sho 'Nuff, "Nigga please".
CTS,
Don't bother with BML. He's one of those people that will never be wrong in their own mind. The only "stats" he ever posted were Xavier Nady's seasonal stats ("326 AB's, 13 HR's, 43 RBI's, .267 Avg.). Has he ever posted RELEVANT statistics? No. Nor has he made a logical point, he's arguing on a subject that has no right or wrong. Why? Because he lives and breathes fighting with people, this is why he refuses to accept logic or make valid, lucid arguments.
This is why he resorts to pot shots, because he has nobody who cares about him enough to take them at him.
This is why I've stopped dealing with him, he only posts so that people will come here to say the things that you, Sonshine and I have.
I'll tell you on AIM exactly what's going to happen next, check out how good I am at predicting the future.
Cheers,
Jack Jablin
Argh! I cant stand it! You are right! Darnit guys. Sure. I didnt show or talk about stats right? Coco' career high in SB's = 20, yet you say that it was Francoma thats hoilding him back. I didnt even need to bother to back up the fact that Damon is a better table setter too. Sure you said its a "proven fact" that Coco is faster. I guess you timed him? Cano hits .327 over an extended amount of time. Yet you compare his stats to Pena's? And then say that its not his fault, Cano was "groomed". Then you say that I compared Cano to Pena?
You say that you havent taken any "potshots" at people too. Wow. You guys are really in your own reality. The kids who got picked on by the cool kids at the lunch table in school so I guess this is your only forum to try and make up for it by denying that I ever made any factual statements. Gosh. Pretty pathetic. Or probably better stated: Haters. Guys who are just so PO'd that your teams havent been able to do as well as the Yankees that you indulge yourselves in bashing the winningest team in team sports history. Have fun watching the playoffs.
Hey BML you totally dodged the question and are making an arguement in a completely different place, hmm I guess I shouldn't be surprised at a Yankee fan who is a hypocrite. But you never answer the question that I presented to you, why are you still here? You do honestly seem to get off on being right and since you can't win an arguement based on opinions you claim that the point that Jack made is invalid because it doesn't agknowledge you as being right which really seems to piss you off doesn't it. And way to go figuring out that me and Jablin are friends, what gave it away, was it ODC? Hmm damn you are a sharp one, reading the articles that we post, damn. But you know Jack you are right, this kid is a dumbass who really can't move on and must be right in every situation for his purpose in life to continue.
Hahaha. So wait. When Ive read the posts here, you guys DONT debate about stuff? Do you? Dodging that question? Gee. I dont know. You are right. Why debate with people who say you arent using facts and stats when you are. What im trying to figure out is; noone else sees this?
This all started because JJ IS rude to people. It wasnt limited to myself. Also, he says nonsense and then ends it with his clever little quips. What? I guess your version of a debate is to leave it at that? "Thanks for playing"? Thats what you guys think passes for a real sports debate? You throw out, "Nady is a GREAT" player. Coco is a "good" player. Pena posts better number than Robinson Cano because, "hes been groomed"? HAhaha. No wonder you guys root for losers. You are losers.
Pip, pip and cheerio.
BML,
You must know I am a Yankee fan by the name I use. I would debate you, but I mostly agree with you about the Yankees. It is unfortunate that things went sour with you and the other guys. I think you will find that things can be different from thread to thread. Stick around , and post on other articles. I think there is lots of fun in store with the Mets lover/Yankee hater who writes here. This guy can be so obnoxious, that you can't wait for his team to fail. In all fairness, you know some Yankee fans can be the same way, I just believe that most aren't.
Yeah, its all good. I just cant stand obnoxioius people who try to pretend they werent being just that. In all honesty, I dont HATE any otehr teams. Its just the fans. I dont hate the Mets, just the fans who can do nothing but attack the Yankees. I live in NYC and have a couple of friends who only watch Yankee games to root against them. I dont get it. I can understand you rooting hard as hell for your team, but rooting against others? Who has all the spare time to waste watching 3 hour games and it doesnt involve your fave team(s)?
Sonshine, Yankee fans ARE obnoxious as all get out. I have found though that the one who really are the most obnoxious are the ones who have only started cheering them on over the last few years. I dont know if its a superiority complex from getting spoile, but they are. Ive been a fan since '78 and suffered through the blight that was the 80's and early 90's. Whatever the case may be, heres to the playoffs! And thanks for the kind words.
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